Very Large Works





VERY LARGE WORKS is an online show organised by http://noemata.net/, containing a pavilion of https://thewrong.org/ new digital art biennale (Nov 2019 - Mar 2020) curated by Bjørn Magnhildøen and Zsolt Mesterhazy, and The Burrow, a secondary space curated by Aad Björkro (see below).

The exhibition contains platforms for open and collaborative works, in addition to individual works. 76 artists participate (including The Burrow), with 43 more taking part in the discussions (see bottom):

THE ALPHABET (Platform)
Bruce Barber
Domenico Barra
Peter Basma-Lord
Lavoslava Bencic
Lawrence Bird
Johannes Birringer
Aad Björkro
Brad Brace
The Burrow (Platform)
Samuel Brzeski
Chris Byrne
Christian Bøen (Termodress)
Joana Chicau
Ludovic Coutinho
Cyborg Art Collective
Cyborg Matrix (Platform)
Antonela Debiasi
Y.Divya Sri
#DUMPHAUS (Platform)
Dave Evans
Luca Forcucci
Benna Gaean Maris
Edoardo Gaudieri
Ben Grosser
Gottfried Haider
Max Herman
Karl Heinz Jeron
James A. Hutchinson
Hypercollective Autobiography (Platform)
ca_jaeger__at__protonmail.com
Cyrus LK
Nicole Kouts
Erica Lapadat-Janzen
Joseph Moore
Rubén Möller
Novi Otten Erytryalsilani
Karina Palosi
Dominik Podsiadly
Julian Priest
Stefanie Reling
Anthony Robinson
João Rocha
Letta Shtohryn
Chan SomethingStar
Alan Sondheim
The Sunderland Pavilion (Time tunnel)
Daniel Temkin
Pall Thayer
Elle Thorkveld
Jurgen Trautwein
AP Vague
Catalina Vallejos
Angelika Vardalou
The VteX Files (Platform)
Roland Wegener
Neale Willis
White Page Gallery (Platform)


From The Burrow:

Isabelle Arvers
Basel Embassy (Tunnel)
Aad Björkro
Yu Cai
DISNOVATION.ORG
Ursula Endlicher
Antje Feger & Benjamin F. Stumpf
Sophie Fields
Benna Gaean Maris
Fabian Heller
Garrett Lynch irl
Amelia Marzec and Abe Morrison
MEGALITH (Tunnel)
Luis Mercado
Zsolt Mesterhazy
Joseph Moore
NETARTFORSTORAGE (Tunnel)
Stefanie Reling
ronnie s
Ausín Sáinz
Pall Thayer
Jurgen Trautwein
Angelika Vardalou
Almond Yeggs

Thanks to all for the time and effort creating and discussing Very Large Works!






MORE INFO

Closed open call, and background: http://verylarge.works/call.html
Working sheet pad: https://bblab.space/p/r.296258e67102944e88438d5e2209ad7d
Contact: mail__at__noemata.net


Part of https://thewrong.org new digital art biennale




PLATFORMS


Open collaborative works




The Burrow - https://h.aard.work/ - Aad Björkro <yesreply__at__aard.work>

White Page Gallery - http://www.whitepagegallery.network - White Page Gallery Network <youarewelcome__at__whitepagegallery.network>
Cyborg Matrix - http://thecyborgmatrix.eu/ - Cyborg Art Collective <cyarco__at__cyarco.com> 
THE ALPHABET - <link to come> - Edoardo Gaudieri <detoune__at__gmail.com>
Hypercollective Autobiography - https://ludoviccoutinho.frama.wiki/autobiographie_hypercollective - Ludovic Coutinho <contact__at__ludoviccoutinho.com>
The VteX Files - https://github.com/the-vtex-files/the-vtex-files.github.io - RPG - <ca_jaeger__at__protonmail.com>

#DUMPHAUS - https://dump.haus - <askdumphaus__at__gmail.com>
Very Large Work discussionlist - http://lists.noemata.net/listinfo.cgi/very_large_works-noemata.net - <mail__at__noemata.net>




WORKS


Individual works





100000000 transparent pixels - Dominik Podsiadly

http://kolo-x.net/VLW/100000000.html

1001 Things of Mine to Buy Before You Die - Peter Basma-Lord - https://peterbasmalord.com/1001.html
161.72.22.246 - Joseph Moore - http://www.inhabitants.xyz/161.72.22.246/



2XTWEETSXMODEMSXTEXTXTWEET, 909 Tweets - Cyrus LK -  https://vimeo.com/307491271, https://twitter.com/2XTXMXTXT
72 million points - Gottfried Haider - https://72mpoints.ghai.xyz/
Accessgrid - Alan Sondheim - http://www.alansondheim.org/accgrid.mp4

Arbitrary screen resolutions
- Benna Gaean Maris - http://aaaabeegimnnnrs.net/asr/
The Art World's Ponzi Scheme - Bruce Barber - https://www.artistprofile.com.au/who-runs-the-artworld/
Brain Massage - Luca Forcucci - https://vimeo.com/291350157
Burn a Disk - Nicole Kouts - https://www.nicolekouts.com/burn-a-disk
Constellations Over Playas - Joseph Moore (with Stephanie Vella) - http://www.constellationsoverplayas.com/
Dear Dead Diary - Karina Pálosi - http://www.karinapalosi.com/work/blogCloud.html
Do something until something stops you doing - Novi Otten Erytryalsilani - https://vimeo.com/354910282 



Do you not like my submission? - Erica Lapadat-Janzen -                                  


http://verylarge.works/erica.jpg







Dominion - Lawrence Bird - https://vimeo.com/237064401


Dried anchovies,disintegrating latex wallcasts,copper microspheres jaguar,shrinking dried kelp withpeeloffmask bodycast,skincast mask etc.

- Angelika Vardalou -

http://verylarge.works/angelika/

Emojisociety - Antonela Debiasi - https://emojisociety.glitch.me/

Ethical Considerations
- Aad Björkro - https://vimeo.com/363433485
Failure codes - Stefanie Reling-Burns - http://failures.stefanie-reling.de/



Folders - Daniel Temkin - https://esolangs.org/wiki/Folders

From Here - Alan Sondheim - http://www.alansondheim.org/fromhere5.mp4



Yes/No - The Genius 2000 Network - Max Herman - http://www.geocities.ws/genius-2000/YesNo.html


http://www.geocities.ws/genius-2000/dark_pixels_15.jpg - http://www.geocities.ws/genius-2000/January_1_Website.GIF - http://www.geocities.ws/genius-2000/SFMOMA82700.html - http://classic.rhizome.org/artbase/artwork/46832/ - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFbxldNCUu1Fa383lgBCj8g

Has anyone ever cried anything other than tears? - Samuel Brzeski - https://vimeo.com/338231429

How to memorize women artists - ydivyasri - 


human being, (2017-) - ydivyasri - https://www.ydivyasri.net/human-being

HumanObject - Letta Shtohryn - https://vimeo.com/357168813
Identify19 - Lavoslava Benčić - https://www.pinterest.com/pin/485614772321491373
Internet Text - Alan Sondheim - http://www.alansondheim.org/


jtwinedotcom - Jürgen Trautwein - https://twitter.com/jtwinedotcom                      




The Longest Line - Pall Thayer - http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/thelongestline                     
          A very long line.


Media black hole - Chris Byrne - http://crowriver.rf.gd/blackhole/

  • The black hole is the ultimate destiny of all matter, and thus all information. It stands as a metaphor for entropy in the universe. An entropy that we are all affected by in the end.
  • The black hole information paradox is a puzzle resulting from the combination of quantum mechanics and general relativity. This suggests that physical information could permanently disappear in a black hole, allowing many physical states to devolve into the same state.
  • Input information and watch everything disappear.



My Life With A Dog - Karl Heinz Jeron -                                                                            
https://twitter.com/MyLifeWithADog?s=09
Nó Cego - João Rocha - https://jaorch.com/no-cego





Nuance de Rêve - Catalina Vallejos - http://antiparti.cl/NuanceDeReve.html - considered toobig to show inside a Tokyo museum.
Order of Magnitude - Ben Grosser - https://vimeo.com/333795857
Phainos - Anthony Robinson - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qo1q3g248...



Reframing unreadable data - A. P. Vague - https://apvague.wordpress.com/2019/10/04/v-l-w-r-u-data-2-0/ 
A Rhizome of Shiny Kardashian Arse - Neale Willis - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4yvmduxe...

Rough Draft - Brad Brace - http://bbrace.net/roughdraft.html
Sequence of 18,802 Digital Images from the Metropolitan Museum of Art Online Collection (Photography, Images Available) - Dave Evans - https://vimeo.com/133594036

Sisyphus of the Ear - Johannes Birringer - http://verylarge.works/johannes/Sisyphus_Of_The_Ear_jb.mp4
Sisyphus Of The Ear in mov-format
Sleeping shepherd remixed - James Hutchinson - https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/sleeping-shepherd-remixed-ab0147e6cf884eb9b9f9f76a287633a8
<-- Somatic Text --> - Joana Chicau - https://jobcb.github.io/


SPAMM / live remix from phone - Chan SomethingStar - url to come -http://lists.noemata.net/pipermail/very_large_works-noemata.net/2019-August/date.html
Spammuseum - Stefanie Reling-Burns - http://spammuseum.de/ 
Sub Pixel - Christian Bøen (Termodress) - http://termodress.com/vlw/VLW_Build-HTML5-Shipping.html
Unwoven - Elle Thorkveld - https://vimeo.com/353143362
Very Large Works - Noemata - http://verylarge.works/

The Weight of Information 2.0 - Julian Priest - http://julianpriest.org/project/twoi
WHITE_BOX_OPEN_SPACE - Roland Wegerer - https://www.instagram.com/white_box_open_space/
..........WRONG .........  endless Angst-ertainment - Rubén Möller -
                So relevant today, only words, only images, paraphrase the sensation we all encounter everyday. 
So it begins:
    
 https://youtu.be/8hHT13JDH68                                                                                                             [1:33]












QUESTIONS


Questions and issues regarding VLW



Interested in the amount of energy taken up by any large works at this point in time; also issues of 'infinity' - the word gets used a lot and seems problematic to me, given planck and energy constraints; again, 1/0 = infinity, but it's unclear what that means,other than an insertion into formal statements. -- Alan Sondheim


Scale means different things in different dimensions. At a trans-dimensional level, scale could be considered as involving the number of dimensions of something. What are those dimensions?

'Latency' and lag can by a perspective to the vague, scant, inactive, flaky. 1. the state of existing but not yet being developed or manifest; concealment. 2.COMPUTING the delay before a transfer of data begins following an instruction for its transfer. "In latent learning particularly, there is no observation of a reward or punishment. Latent learning is simply animals observing their surroundings with no particular motivation to learn the geography of it; however, at a later date, they are able to exploit this knowledge when there is motivation - such as the biological need to find food or escape trouble." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_learning.

A durational piece could be a very large work, but what about works that aren't continuous but come into being over long periods of time? What I'm especially interested in is the inactive periods, the chunks of time when the work is ostensibly not being worked on. Can we say that nothing is happening during those periods? Are the intervals between the work being worked on part of the work? Is its occurrence, spread out in time, one of the elements that shape it? Will a small work, diluted over a very large period of time, become a very large work? Or will it become invisible? (I first thought this could connect to Failure but a diluted-to-the-point-of-invisibility work is not necessarily a failed work. Maybe a homeopathic work?)


When we discuss the possibilities of very large works where are the limits of our discussion, is this delineated only by logic based structure or do 'other' possibilities merit worth?
Is it right to take just one parameter of the work or is it better to take them all into consideration? example: if we take the work of Cage mentioned, the piece is very long but from the point of view of the instrumentation (one instrument) it's the smallest you can have. As an insturment with timbre it has only some  pitch-frequencies. So it has not a large frequency-spectrum. What is the parameter?

when the data moves between different formats/media, the characteristcs are changed, say, from a hot media in mcluhan terminology, to cool, or vice versa. i wonder if what we're trying to do here, maybe, is turning hot to cool, in collapsing a symbolic largeness, or the heat tied to a well-running apparatus, either formal or physical, say, an infinite bloating or spectacle, collapsed into another, low definition? media that don't take your senses hostage, but rather engage them through incompleteness, lack, or failure. Complete/incomplete could be a dimension of VLW?


What I'm especially interested in is the inactive periods, the chunks of time when the work is ostensibly not being worked on. Can we say that nothing is happening during those periods? http://lists.noemata.net/pipermail/very_large_works-noemata.net/2019-May/000065.html

thoughts on scale 1:1 
"In effect, to perfectly simulate the universe we would need another, identical universe"  
"In fact these days the main limitation of computers compared to brains is energy consumption: your brain uses only about as much power as a small lightbulb, while Watson’s supply could light up a whole office building."
"Nearest-neighbor is the simplest and fastest learning algorithm ever invented. In fact, you could even say its the fastest algorithm of a kind that could even be invented. It consists of doing exactly nothing, and therefore takes zero time to run."
— ref.: Domingos, Pedro. The Master Algorithm: How the Quest for the Ultimate Learning Machine Will Remake Our World. UK: Penguin Books, 2017. 

Are there more number of stars than number of pixels?

"A white-wash in many ways - culturally, institutionally and economically" - Is this logic if the world is made only of sapiens? -- chan chan chan <bidulastre2__at__hotmail.fr>

Contribution One:  What does it take to be a genius?  Do you have it?  Does anyone you know personally have it?  What does the year 2000 mean?  Does it mean this to you, or other people?  How are the concepts of genius and the year 2000 connected? 

When Borges talks about labyrinths, is that a synonym for networks? 



SUGGESTIONS




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Douglas Repetto - Affirmative Butterfly Migration Effect (when is efficacy a useful metric?)

will VERY LARGE works make water to go down the plug hole the other way?

maybe some work could be based on the new kilogram? The Unbearable Lightness of the Internet (Here Comes Everybody)? the new definition now into one zoomable non-deterministic territory?


could also "large" be intended as "long"? a length obtained by repeating a single element (an image, a video, a  single frame, a single word or even a single letter) until the sense goes down. given an element, it's possible to create a (new/old) world by adding the elements itself as a (regular/irregular) pattern. time, space, money. all this topics are created by the repetition of a single (irrelevant and defined by conventions) element. 

Termodress - http://surrealist.no/reception/reception.html. Platform-related: A prototype of an interactive 3D-gallery with a lot of space (1500x1500 meter I think), currently empty. And it is also possible to make infinite world(s) with Unreal Engine 4, using level streaming.

"large" could be like SPA (social practice art)? They use to have a large number of persons involved.

very tiny works, rather undermining the term in different ways. an initial idea behind the project was a reaction to the bloatedness of artworks - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/artprice-10-top-selling-artworks-103000807.html

---Here is a possible way to provide more structure for all the inputs given- This list could be revised weekly..

1. PRIMARY RESEARCH 
2. MAKING
3. LOOK UP REFERENCES
---One possible work 

Consider Bohmian dialogue, as described in the original text of On Dialogue by David Bohm, as opposed to derivations, interpretations, etc.  



RESOURCES




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic
https://boingboing.net/2017/08/25/person-tests-amazons-unlim.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klGoP04C-WY
http://awp.diaart.org/km/painting.html
http://clickmonkeys.com/
https://blog.matthewbarber.io/2019/07/22/how-to-make-compressed-file-quines
An existing very large work is "As Slow As Possible" by John Cage, it is playing now on an organ in Germany for 639 years until the year 2640.
Daniel Temkin - PingFS - https://esoteric.codes/blog/pingfs-storing-your-files-in-network-traffic
re: mathematics, http://lists.noemata.net/pipermail/very_large_works-noemata.net/2019-May/000048.html
Asteroid Bennu - http://lists.noemata.net/pipermail/very_large_works-noemata.net/2019-May/000066.html
https://datadating.tacticaltech.org/
http://www.emojitracker.com/
https://noemata.net - organiser
https://thewrong.org - organiser
Jorge Luís Borges - The Congress, Book of Sand, The Disk
Jorge Luis Borges - "On Exactitude in Science" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Exactitude_in_Science)
http://www.arte-util.org/
A four-book set, meant to be considered as a framework, labyrinth, or compass of sorts: Six Memos for the Next Millennium (1985), by Italo Calvino; On Dialogue (1996), by David Bohm; Networks of the Brain (2011), by Olaf Sporns; Chase, Chance, and Creativity (1979), by James Austin.
Article:  “Integral feedback control is at the core of task allocation and resilience of insect societies.”  Link:  https://www.pnas.org/content/115/52/13180



PARTICIPANTS




THE ALPHABET (Platform) <detoune__at__gmail.com>
Bruce Barber <babarber__at__gmail.com> - http://brucebarber.ca
Domenico Barra <rockmyworld__at__dombarra.art> - Whitepage gallery
Peter Basma-Lord <me__at__peterbasmalord.com>
Lavoslava Benčić <lavoslava__at__bencic.si>
Lawrence Bird <lb__at__lawrenceywg.ca> - https://vimeo.com/lawrencebird / /
Johannes Birringer <Johannes.Birringer__at__brunel.ac.uk>
Aad Björkro <yesreply__at__aard.work> - https://aard.work
Brad Brace <bbrace__at__eskimo.com >
The Burrow (Platform) <yesreply__at__aard.work>
Samuel Brzeski <slbrzeski__at__gmail.com>
Chris Byrne <chris__at__crowriver.net>
Christian Bøen (Termodress) <termodress__at__gmail.com>
Joana Chicau <joanabcq__at__gmail.com >
Ludovic Coutinho https://ludoviccoutinho.frama.wiki & contact__at__ludoviccoutinho.com
Cyborg Matrix (Platform) <cyarco__at__cyarco.com>
Antonela Debiasi <vlw__at__antonela.me>
Y.Divya Sri <divyasri.xyz__at__gmail.com>
#DUMPHAUS (Platform) <askdumphaus__at__gmail.com>
Dave Evans <dave__at__evansdave.com>
Luca Forcucci - https://lucaforcucci.com/
Benna Gaean Maris <mebennayoubenna__at__gmail.com> - http://aaaabeegimnnnrs.net/ / Interdisciplinary being
Edoardo Gaudieri <detoune__at__gmail.com>
Ben Grosser <grosser__at__bengrosser.com>
Gottfried Haider <gottfried.haider__at__gmail.com>
Max Herman <maxnmherman__at__hotmail.com>
Karl Heinz Jeron <hello__at__jeron.org>
James A. Hutchinson <j.a.hutchinson__at__sunderland.ac.uk>. Artist, Senior lecturer in Fine Art, University of Sunderland. http://www.jameshutchinson.org
Hypercollective Autobiography (Platform) <contact__at__ludoviccoutinho.com>
ca_jaeger__at__protonmail.com
Chan SomethingStar <bidulastre2__at__hotmail.fr>
Cyborg Art Collective <cyarco__at__cyarco.com>
Cyrus LK <cyrus7__at__hotmail.fr>
Nicole Kouts <nicolekoutsantonis__at__gmail.com>
Erica Lapadat-Janzen <ericalapadatjanzen__at__gmail.com>
Joseph Moore <moore.joseph__at__gmail.com>
Rubén Möller <Ruben_Moller__at__hotmail.com>
Novi Otten Erytryalsilani <noviotten__at__hotmail.com>
Karina Palosi <temporarily.available__at__gmail.com>
Dominik Podsiadly <dominikpodsiadly__at__gmail.com>
Julian Priest <julian__at__informal.org.uk>
Stefanie Reling <mail__at__stefanie-reling.de>
Anthony Robinson <a.robinson97__at__icloud.com>
João Rocha <jaorch404__at__gmail.com>
Letta Shtohryn <lettashtohryn__at__gmail.com>
Alan Sondheim <sondheim__at__gmail.com> <sondheim__at__panix.com> - http://www.alansondheim.org/ sure, here/0 
The Sunderland Pavilion (Time tunnel) <j.a.hutchinson__at__sunderland.ac.uk>
Daniel Temkin <d__at__danieltemkin.com>
Pall Thayer <pallthay__at__gmail.com> - http://pallthayer.dyndns.org
Elle Thorkveld <elle.thorkveld__at__gmail.com> - https://dropr.com/ellev
Jurgen Trautwein <jtwine__at__jtwine.com> - https://twitter.com/jtwinedotcom
AP Vague <apvague__at__gmail.com>
Catalina Vallejos <kintrala__at__me.com> 
Angelika Vardalou <angyvrdl__at__yahoo.co.uk>
Very Large Work discussionlist <mail__at__noemata.net>
The VteX Files (Platform) <ca_jaeger__at__protonmail.com>
Roland Wegerer <Wegerer.roland__at__gmx.at>
Neale Willis <vlw__at__nealewillis.com> - http://nealewillis.com
White Page Gallery (Platform) <youarewelcome__at__whitepagegallery.network>


From The Burrow - https://h.aard.work/info

Isabelle Arvers
Basel Embassy (Tunnel)
Aad Björkro
Brad Brace
Yu Cai
DISNOVATION.ORG
Ursula Endlicher
Antje Feger & Benjamin F. Stumpf 
Sophie Fields
Benna Gaean Maris
Fabian Heller
Garrett Lynch irl
Amelia Marzec and Abe Morrison
MEGALITH (Tunnel)
Luis Mercado
Zsolt Mesterhazy
NETARTFORSTORAGE (Tunnel)
Stefanie Reling-Burns
ronnie s
Ausín Sáinz
Pall Thayer
Juergen Trautwein
Angelika Vardalou
Almond Yeggs

From Discussions - http://lists.noemata.net/listinfo.cgi/very_large_works-noemata.net

Acoustic Mirror
daria baiocchi
bats.by.fireside.bright
Simon Biggs
isabel brison
Ana Buigues
Seamas Cain
Yiorgos Chouliaras
Xavier Coadic
Eylul Dogruel
Luisa Fabrizi
Martine Folkersma
Benji Friedman
Raisa H
Verena Hermann
Fernando Hermogenes
Snezhana Honcharenko
Saskia Kaffenberger
irena kalodera
Maya kalogera
Zves Konstantinos
Bonnie MacAllister
Bjørn Magnhildøen
Malgorzata
Gianluca Monaco
Lila Moore
Nicola Novello
Lando Ortensio
Pim Peterse
Pinkalsky
qmawoh
Douglas Repetto
Ricardo Ruiz
Shalala Salamzadeh
Antoine Schmitt
Guido Segni
Anya Teixeira
Udruga Uke
Nigel Vaughn Roberts
Dirk Vekemans
Mike Wessling
Xiaoyao Xu